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	<title>Comments on: The gap year comes to Canada</title>
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		<title>By: robert stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand, Vivi. I was encouraged to finish hi school. (get that hi school diploma, son, and you can get a good job). Armed with that diploma I sought that good job. &quot;Well, you have your military obligation ahead of you, son. If we hire you, you&#039;ll get drafted, and all the training we gave you will be wasted.&quot; (Yeah, I live down here in the colonies, a militaristic country). So I joined the service, got that behind me and went forth seeking that good job. &quot;Well, we can&#039;t  hire you son, you have no experience.&quot; At  this point, I think I may have screamed. But eventually, my state established a Trade School system, I learned a trade and became a bona fide member of the proletariat. So, hang in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand, Vivi. I was encouraged to finish hi school. (get that hi school diploma, son, and you can get a good job). Armed with that diploma I sought that good job. &#8220;Well, you have your military obligation ahead of you, son. If we hire you, you&#8217;ll get drafted, and all the training we gave you will be wasted.&#8221; (Yeah, I live down here in the colonies, a militaristic country). So I joined the service, got that behind me and went forth seeking that good job. &#8220;Well, we can&#8217;t  hire you son, you have no experience.&#8221; At  this point, I think I may have screamed. But eventually, my state established a Trade School system, I learned a trade and became a bona fide member of the proletariat. So, hang in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivi</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/margin-notes/the-gap-year-comes-to-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-12368</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be late to the party, but I have to say that I really regret not having taken a gap year. It was mainly pressure from my parents to go straight away, since I &quot;knew what I wanted to do&quot;, but also because some of her friends&#039; kids had decided not to go back after taking a year off.

I want to be an author. You don&#039;t need to have a university degree to do that, and I think being kind of shoved into attending university right away hasn&#039;t helped me at all in gaining my own independence. Sure, I moved to another city to attend uni, but I wasn&#039;t able to get a job, and now I find myself wondering what the f*ck I&#039;m supposed to do: I want to get my own place for my next year of uni if I decide to go back (hated dorms so much!), but I don&#039;t have any work experience to help me get a job, and my parents have said that they won&#039;t support me financially if I decide not to attend uni anymore (which I&#039;m considering) and will throw me out of the house if I don&#039;t have a job to help with paying for things like food (did I mention I don&#039;t have any experience to get a job? or that they&#039;re really hard to find in my area right now?).

Seriously, I hardly know what to do with myself right now. I know that I want to 1) move out ASAP, 2) get published, and 3) get a job so that I can live on my own while I work on the whole writing and getting published thing. But how do I do that when I have no job experience and little sense of who I am as a human being?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be late to the party, but I have to say that I really regret not having taken a gap year. It was mainly pressure from my parents to go straight away, since I &#8220;knew what I wanted to do&#8221;, but also because some of her friends&#8217; kids had decided not to go back after taking a year off.</p>
<p>I want to be an author. You don&#8217;t need to have a university degree to do that, and I think being kind of shoved into attending university right away hasn&#8217;t helped me at all in gaining my own independence. Sure, I moved to another city to attend uni, but I wasn&#8217;t able to get a job, and now I find myself wondering what the f*ck I&#8217;m supposed to do: I want to get my own place for my next year of uni if I decide to go back (hated dorms so much!), but I don&#8217;t have any work experience to help me get a job, and my parents have said that they won&#8217;t support me financially if I decide not to attend uni anymore (which I&#8217;m considering) and will throw me out of the house if I don&#8217;t have a job to help with paying for things like food (did I mention I don&#8217;t have any experience to get a job? or that they&#8217;re really hard to find in my area right now?).</p>
<p>Seriously, I hardly know what to do with myself right now. I know that I want to 1) move out ASAP, 2) get published, and 3) get a job so that I can live on my own while I work on the whole writing and getting published thing. But how do I do that when I have no job experience and little sense of who I am as a human being?</p>
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		<title>By: May</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/margin-notes/the-gap-year-comes-to-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-4374</link>
		<dc:creator>May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - I saw many of my fellow students come straight from high school, and most of them did not complete their studies on time.  While many dropped out, others took a year off between studies, or failed classes enough to need to take more time to complete their programs.  However, those of us who had taken a semester, year, or more to work, travel, or volunteer had a much higher chance of succeeding in our studies, absorbing more, were more grateful for the opportunities and took them more seriously, and had a better chance to finish our studies on schedule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; I saw many of my fellow students come straight from high school, and most of them did not complete their studies on time.  While many dropped out, others took a year off between studies, or failed classes enough to need to take more time to complete their programs.  However, those of us who had taken a semester, year, or more to work, travel, or volunteer had a much higher chance of succeeding in our studies, absorbing more, were more grateful for the opportunities and took them more seriously, and had a better chance to finish our studies on schedule.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo VanEvery</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/margin-notes/the-gap-year-comes-to-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo VanEvery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience as a university professor, going straight to university when a young person wanted to take a year off (or more) doesn&#039;t necessarily have positive outcomes. I&#039;ve seen students perform poorly and even have serious mental health difficulties in this situation.

Taking time off and coming to university when you really know what you want to get out of it seems to be a much more sensible course, especially given the cost of a university education. If kids never go, then presumably it is because they have found a way to earn a living that doesn&#039;t require them to.

As for parents, they can set limits on how long they will support a child who is neither gainfully employed nor studying. My partner&#039;s parents wouldn&#039;t let him live at home for more than one year. He took 2 years between school and university and the second year moved in with friends. He is now a very successful university professer. But he studied something completely different than he had planned in his final year of school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience as a university professor, going straight to university when a young person wanted to take a year off (or more) doesn&#8217;t necessarily have positive outcomes. I&#8217;ve seen students perform poorly and even have serious mental health difficulties in this situation.</p>
<p>Taking time off and coming to university when you really know what you want to get out of it seems to be a much more sensible course, especially given the cost of a university education. If kids never go, then presumably it is because they have found a way to earn a living that doesn&#8217;t require them to.</p>
<p>As for parents, they can set limits on how long they will support a child who is neither gainfully employed nor studying. My partner&#8217;s parents wouldn&#8217;t let him live at home for more than one year. He took 2 years between school and university and the second year moved in with friends. He is now a very successful university professer. But he studied something completely different than he had planned in his final year of school.</p>
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